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Suburban Bando 3 months
if you don't want to recite the pledge, then you shouldn't be in government at all. if you can't pledge allegiance to your country while being in government, you shouldn't be in government.
mcpimpen 3 months
Says who?
Perry McCorkle 3 months
then why isn't the president and congress on TV every morning reciting the pledge to the nation
Jesse Morgan 3 months
@mcpimpen pretty much anyone with common sense.

AY-MO 3 months
Forcing people to recite a silly pledge is pretty damn stupid.
David Fortin 3 months
No one is forced to. It's optional
Doyaun Evans 3 months
Actually it is not optional. My school threatened to paddle me. All I said was, take out God and Flag. I do not want God's involved in human stupidity. I do not find allegiances to flags. Also I think what it stands for is unclear and differs to each person. Now if it is a private club thing. I can choose out. Star Spangled Banner is more a historic thing. I am not pledging fealty to anything. just recounting a story.
Beisht Kione 3 months
Doyaun, when do this happen? Paddling hasnt happened in a long time.

Russ Kurtell 3 months
People can chose to say it or not. Forcing everyone, or allowing no one are both wrong.
Doyaun Evans 3 months
no one said you can't. they said they were not ruling you must and it will not be done by that body. it does not mean you cannot pledge to your heart's content.

Mod Okay 3 months
The Pioneer Press noted that Anne Mavity, a St. Louis Park council member, said roughly half of Minnesota’s cities, including Minneapolis, do not recite the pledge before meetings.... Manufactured Outrage
Havoc44 3 months
all you've done is shown at the problem is even worse than stated😂
Mod Okay 3 months
Havoc, I was trying to show that its actually not a problem because other cities in Minnesota have stopped making it a requirement. So when another city stops making the pledge a requirement it shouldnt bring any extra outrage unless its manufactured outrage.

The Real AY-MO 3 months
Disloyalty to one's Country sickens me
Blake Hobba 3 months
How easily some people buy into silly BS propaganda sickens me.
3 months
I hate Fake Patriots who refuse to serve their country.
James Sanford (Retroambassador) 3 months
blind loyalty sickens me

rj9955hi 3 months
When we lose out culture we lose our country. period.
Blake Hobba 3 months
The pledge isn't part of our culture. It's Cold War propaganda that directly goes against the founding principles of the Revolution.
Brandon Huber 3 months
If your culture is the pledge, then your culture is shitty. Pledge hating American here. Love Americans, hate the pledge. Pledging allegiance to the symbol is disgusting to do in a nation that calls itself free.

Blake Hobba 3 months
The pledge is completely anti-American, by our foundational standards. It was written by a French socialist in the late 1800's for the 'common man of any nation', and the version we know was ironically mandated in the 1950's to 'fight communism'. It has nothing to do with our history, and it's call for blind subservience directly contradicts the principles of the American Revolution.
Beisht Kione 3 months
I dont think anyone should be forced to say the pledge. There's the couch. Why did you put "fight communism" in quotes? Maybe you dont understand what was going on in the world at that time and so you would rather suck you far leftists anti American talking points out their ass, but communism was a very real threat at the time. Half of Europe had just been conquered and was being held hostage by Communism and the body count was already going up. You dont get to pretend like you care what the Nazis did and then also ignore what Communism/Socialism did and was up to back then, at the same time. That makes you a hypocrite. That creates a rules for thee, but not for me scenario. I've yet to run into a single far leftist whom cares about that saying though. Because it really is what you believe.
Based Haole 3 months
It's funny because you don't realize how close you came to waking up little brother so very close
applejuice 3 months
I've read several of your comments beisht i like you. you're ok in my book

TheMadDane 3 months
The pledge was written by a socialist for socialistic ideals. 🤷‍♂️
Marion P. 3 months
Just because a socialist wrote it doesn't mean the pledge itself is socialist.
TheMadDane 2 months
The pledge is socialist tho. 🤷‍♂️
Marion P. 2 months
Okay the pledge is socialist. Just like jets are Nazi since Nazis made jet technology. And the atomic bomb is Jewish since most scientists who made it and the theories behind it were Jewish. And the Bible must be Jewish since Jews wrote it.

Just An Opinion 3 months
The pledge allegiance is not only for citizens, it is for all allies of the USA. If you are not a US ally, then why the fuck should a US Governmental sector help you? Reciting the pledge should be mandatory to seeking the services of the US.
Perry McCorkle 3 months
then why don't the president and congress get on TV every morning and recite it to the nation
Just An Opinion 3 months
Because they pledge allegiance when they're sworn into office. I'm talking about all the constituents who attend these meetings to petition for this or that. In order to ask for help from the Government, they should be reciting the pledge.
Doyaun Evans 3 months
do we need to pledge to Say France? I do not see that likely. No most favored trade status unless you say the pledge. China you first.

michael zubas 3 months
I only leave out the "Under God" part out because that was added in, and is against the 1dt amendment, IMO.

Andrew Colomy 3 months
It takes a measly 12 seconds to recite. What the hell is the big deal?
Miles O'Brien 3 months
@A Col: So there is no meaning to or understanding of required when you take an oath? Just 1 seconds? So it's about cost not conscience.

Barra Cudda 3 months
Im not an american but this is a clear case of like it or leave. If you cant handle being american, leave america. There are other countries to live in. Ones that are socialist and feminist and comunist and all the things in between. It strikes me as bizare that the people who espouse free and open borders cant stand by that principle and fuck off.
Brandon Huber 3 months
The pledge is unamerican. Read Common Sense, the pamphlet that convinced Americans to fight a revolution, and then tell me pledging allegiance to a symbol id American. You don't understand America. Stay in your lane, bud.
Beisht Kione 3 months
I know exactly what you mean, Cuda. I generally agree, however I do not want to force people to do these kinds of things. The left has become extremely anti American however and I do think they should move to where they think is better, instead of trying to burn down all of America. Because that it what is happening at this point. Immigrants especially. I think Tucker Carlson and the follow up commentary by Liberty Hound are spot on.
Beisht Kione 3 months
Brandon, you're missing his greater point. Maybe stay in your lane until you actually understand where he's coming from.

Dave 3 months
The left once again can only destroy, not build. If they don't like the pledge of allegiance, suggest changes to make it more palatable. I doubt anyone would disagree with "I pledge my loyalty to the people of the United States or America." Then you're not pledging allegiance to the state, but the people.

Star Alien 3 months
Who gives a shit?
themdg MOD 3 months
Most of us.
Star Alien 3 months
The chuds
Beisht Kione 3 months
Shut up Troll. Your opinions have zero value to either side

Lowlife 3 months
We don’t want you to have to say the pledge, they don’t want you to be able to. Big difference

Havoc44 3 months
"freedom and justice for all" is now somehow non-inclusive. as for those who dislike the flag in general or its references to God I will point out this: a nation needs a core set of values to function. those values whether you like it or not are based in Christian beliefs. western ideas of equality and freedom that make up our legal system are founded on biblical references. so ironically without God your anti-theism would never exist. you just be competing the number of different tribes with you're different gods until One Tribe killed everyone else. Christianity was the only religion that ever assimilated others by incorporating them into it's Faith via declaring them Saints. the greatest irony is that despite the left's hatred of the Catholic Church. the Catholic Church pioneered the very idea of inclusivity and tolerance. all the negative Associations people have today of the church today stem from the corruption after the church became to big and assemilated to many faiths. ironically the church learned the hard way that diversity isn't always a strength

Kevin McAlpin 3 months
how is this a headline? we don't live up to our anthem or our pledge, how is this a headline?

Brandon Huber 3 months
Good. The pledge of allegiance is orwellian shit that does not belong in a country that calls itself free.
Beisht Kione 3 months
I sort of generally agree. What about the Star Spangled banner before sports games? What about Independence Day? What about flying the flag outside your home or a sticker on your car?
Based Haole 3 months
But the ideals that the American Flag represents are good Ideals to uphold why are you against loving your nation that doesn't mean you have to worship the government moron or can you not form your own opinions without masses of other people to go along with?
Brandon Huber 3 months
@Based Haole There is a difference between thinking something is good and pledging fucking allegiance to it. Because I am American, I pledge allegiance to no symbols. Any patriotism that cares this much about symbols is flimsy, weak.