Environment groups sue Trump Administration over fracking

Environment groups sue Trump Administration over fracking

The Center for Biological Diversity, along with Earthjustice, which represents several other groups, Natural Resources Defense Council, the National Parks Conservation Association, and many others are suing the administration. The suit, filed in US District Court, claims that the fracking could harm water supplies, local environments, the climate and even trigger earthquakes.

Alpha 150
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Asura Bomb
Asura Bomb 1 months

I get the claims and all, but considering that we've been doing this for a while, why start now and blame Trump for it? We've been fracking for gas and oil for our basic needs, so this doesnt really make sense.

EnervatedSociety 1 months

Honestly I stopped reading at “Biological Diversity, along with Earthjustice” that tells me everything I need to know.

David 1 months

just a quick point, we've been fracking for at least 30 years.

Occam’s lazer
Occam’s lazer 1 months

Oh god not this again, come on just because people continually say things doesn’t make it true. There’s literally 0 chance of ground water contamination provided things are done correctly (and they have less margin of error than the Karen doing payroll that keeps coming up with these claims) First off, depending on where geographically the frack site is, they’re fracking between 4 and 7 thousand feet below, water table is at 250-500. Second, how wells are constructed makes claims like this sound pretty stupid. The innermost layer is a thick steel pipe that’s usually 6-9 ish inches in diameter, this is called “tubing” because it’s a tube (bold statements only here). Next up is the casing (I bet you can guess why) it’s usually about 12-16 inches in diameter. Outside of the casing on literally the entire 4-7k foot vertical run is a foot wide ring of cement isolating the casing and tubing from the ground the entire way down. It’s almost impossible and over 100 people have to not know how to do the only part of their jobs for this to be a legitimate claim. Next up “earthquakes” this is stupid and you should feel bad. The charges they lower into the well are small shaped charges with shrapnel that when fired: perforate the tubing and casing, and crack the formation around it on the horizontal run allowing water/sand/and acid to be pumped into said cracks at 10k or so psi. Then it’s plugged off and it sits for a month like that until the entire frack is finished and they begin completion (pulling oil/water/sand out of the hole and separating it all). So fracking causing earthquakes...the explosive is about 8 feet tall and maybe 3 inches in diameter and is barely powerful enough to send this shrapnel about 10 feet outside of the casing. If someone decided to detonate a giant bomb underground could it cause an earthquake? Yes. If someone decided to bury 10 claymores 5thousand feet below the ground and detonate them you’d never even know the difference (and that may even be a generous equivalency) Basically fracking is an engineering marvel run by highly skilled professionals and somewhere between a thousand and 3 thousand individuals work on or support directly each well site. There is very little that can go wrong when that many people are checking your work. It’s a complicated and bizarre process thinking about it, and it’s no surprise that strange claims come about from people that don’t understand, however hundreds of people a lot more eloquent than me have explained this and some people refuse to understand continuing to make these claims. It’s no problem to admit that you understand, it is a problem to purposely misunderstand and make probably false claims

Paris Cloud
Paris Cloud 1 months

How do these groups even have standing to sue in the first place?

lynn pabon
lynn pabon 1 months

The list just keeps piling up for Trump and there are still people who defend him. Thry need to wake up.

SimonR 1 months


Matt H.
Matt H. 1 months

People often ask on here why people blame Trump for this sort of thing, and here's my opinion: He is the one in a position of power to do something, at the throne of the most powerful nation in the world. Blaming past presidents such as ((((Obama)))) for our problems might feel good, yet won't be productive since they no more hold real power (other than being lobbyists, etc). Since Trump is a fairly random and malleable president, it's always worth a try I feel like.

Scott in FLorida
Scott in FLorida 1 months

The clowns in California can't even keep their lights on or put out and prevent fires they are mostly clueless. However if what someone is doing on their property adversely affects other property the court should stop it.

Andre Gerard
Andre Gerard 1 months

Earthjustice 🙄

Crimson Jester
Crimson Jester 1 months

It can be quite an experience getting an earthquake in a non-earthquake zone. However since annoying that fracking was in fact causing it and changing how they accomplished it, they have gone away.

Fin 1 months

Fracking is a major cause of toxins in water systems.... Another abomination done to the very decent folks in west VA...

Kóhmúh N'de
Kóhmúh N'de 1 months

"The message from the COP 25 conference in Spain is that the world must rapidly decarbonize or face an existential crisis. We have to slash carbon emissions by 55% over the next 10 years or we are all dead ducks." https://cleantechnica.com/2019/12/22/100-wind-water-solar-energy-can-should-be-the-goal-costs-less/

Petri Fide
Petri Fide 1 months

Did they ever come up with a solid answer for all the Oklahoma micro quakes they were blaming on fracking?

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